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Jimi Lowrey
August 25th, 2019, 05:36 PM
NGC 190 Group AKA Hickson 5

Pisces

RA 00 38 54
Dec +07 03 45

Type-Compact group

NGC 190 mag 14.9

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NGC 190 group is a interesting tight compact group also listed in Hickson’s Catalog of compact groups (HCG5). It was found by Lewis Swift on October 22 1886 with his 16 “ Clark refactor. His notes say “Very Faint,Small and a little extended”. I do not think that Swift was able to bust up the group with his wide field sweeping eyepiece.
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HCG A 14.9 MAG
HCG B 15.7 MAG
HCG C 16.5 MAG
HCG D 17.3 MAG

From my brief notes they say “All seen with HCG C being the most difficult. I often find that the most dim listed MAG is not always the most difficult to see in a galaxy group.
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I look forward to hearing about your observations of the NGC 190 group and as always,

“Give It A Go”

lamperti
August 25th, 2019, 07:28 PM
On a night of poor seeing 19 years ago, an 18" at 256x showed NGC 190 surrounded by blotchiness. Worth another shot with better conditions and more aperture.

wvreeven
August 26th, 2019, 02:14 PM
I logged in 2016 with my 20" telescope "At 545x three components seen. Sometimes the fourth appears to be visible as well." I assume that the fourth in this case means PGC 2326 since it is the faintest galaxy.

Steve Gottlieb
August 28th, 2019, 02:10 AM
I also logged three with my 18" (back in 2006), though HCG 5C = PGC 2322 was somewhat challenging. The faintest member, HCG 5D = PGC 2326, was a "marginal observation, just glimpsed on a couple of occasions as an extremely faint, virtually stellar object".

Howard B
August 29th, 2019, 02:55 AM
I have an observation using my old 20-inch Obsession:

"I'm not 100% sure I saw the D galaxy but I had several hints something small and faint was ready to pop into visibility at this spot. Galaxy C was definitely seen with averted vision and galaxies A and B were faint but detectable with direct vision. They alternately seemed connected and separate - interesting illusion. 413x."

Ivan Maly
August 31st, 2019, 02:36 PM
Here is a new observation (20" F/4, SQM 21.7, 4800 ft a.s.l.): "Group obvious with 13 mm, NGC 190 (i.e. A) dominates and has a halo in addition to a core sized similarly to B and C. The halo is enhanced on W and E edges. D glimpsed but not definite. 5.5 mm: Relatively compact enhancement on WNW edge of the halo in A, two such enhancements in contact form the E and SE edge. B on S edge. D definite and elongated NE-SW without concentration. Appears larger than on DSS." The last remark refers to the specific print I had with me. In the sketch below, N is up.

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Uwe Glahn
September 2nd, 2019, 06:03 PM
Similar results than above.

20", 310x, NELM 6m5+, Seeing II-III
faint overall glow visible with averted vision up from 217x; with 210x both brighter members detected and separated with averted vision; both nearly stellar cores surrounded by faint halos; galaxy c NW steadily with averted vision; d is popping in and out of view a few times
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Last nights I revisited the group under only average transparency. I wrote:

27", 419x, NELM 6m0+, Seeing III
longish glow with searching eyepiece; nicely separated with 419x; a and b with similar brightness visible with direct vision; both halos touching each other with a somewhat larger halo of a; c third brightest member and easy visible with averted vision as a diffuse round glow; d more diffuse but without showing any elongation, difficult but steadily visible with averted vision