A second attempt to see Hodge 1, 3, 4 and 5 in NGC-185 in Cassiopeia. The first attempt was from NELM of 5.9 from PA and was unsuccessful. This time it was from 6.3 NELM skies from Vermont . They were definitely averted vision 50% of the time as has been reported elsewhere. Off the beaten path for sure, but a nice challenge as they all are.