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    Object of the Week, November 17th, 2019 - NGC 210 – Galaxy in Cetus

    Object of the Week November 17th, 2019 - NGC 210, MCG-02-02-081, PGC 2437 – Galaxy in Cetus

    R.A.: 00h40m35.1s Dec.: -13°52'26" (2000)
    Size: 5.0'x 3.1'
    Magnitude: 10.90 (V); 11.90 (B); SB 22.8 Mag/arcsec²
    Morphology; SAB(s)b

    When I had the opportunity to spend 2 nights on the 82” at McDonald Observatory 13 years ago this week (November 17/18 in 2006), I put together an observing list with as many different types of objects as I could think of, understanding that the field of view of this telescope was 5.5 arc-minutes @ 812X, so it was pretty much a waste of time to be looking at objects too much bigger than this, since you would need to slew the telescope around in order to see the entire thing. NGC 210 seemed like an ideal target because it would fill the entire field of view and had details that are fairly difficult to see in most amateur telescopes. I considered it to be an ideal target for the 82” under those dark Texas skies.

    In the process of doing my due diligence for this object, I looked it up on Simbad, only to find that it is listed as “NGC 210 -- Galaxy in Pair of Galaxies”. However, I find no other source that can confirm this… and in all the photos I looked at there was nothing obvious in the immediate area, except for mag 14.3 MCG 2-2-82 and mag 15.6 LEDA 169998, each between 7 and 8 arc-minutes away, and they don’t appear to be likely candidates, at least to me! Perhaps someone can fill in some blanks here… and NED didn’t say a thing about multiple galaxies…

    NGC 210 is a barred spiral galaxy about 67 million light-years away in Cetus. It was discovered on October 3, 1785 by William Herschel, and he called it “pB, pS, mbM, resolvable, star 1.5' distant”.

    ngc 210 bw cropped.jpg

    When I observed this guy in a 20” f/5 dob a long time ago it was bright but small, and obviously elongated. I saw no sign of arms of any kind. I saw no sign of any other galaxies in the field and there was an 8th magnitude star 7 or 8 arc-minutes generally to the west. When in Texas using the 82” it was a completely different story! It was now a large spiral, and the faint outer arms were almost completely separated from the distinctively elongated core. It had an overall mottled appearance, with several HII areas suspected, and the core had a smooth outer edge.

    NGC 210 color rotated.jpg

    As always, give it a go and let us know.
    Paul Alsing
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    Great object and very interesting observation with the 82" telescope! I have the same experience as you with my 20" telescope: a large oval that grows brighter to the center and no further details seen.

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    With a 13" at 130x in 1990: "Large; brighter core with edges noticeably fainter."
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    This is a great galaxy. I saw it four years ago with our club's observatory Obsession (20", 21.2 mag/arcsec2 site, elev. 500 m), and my notes say, "Core, nucleus, distant companion, broad SSE and narrow WNW arm segments."
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    Aha so the arms ARE possible with a 20” telescope. Challenge accepted!!!

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    Hi All,
    I spite the arms are weaks, they are well perceived in my 25" Obsession, even in a rather poor sky (NELM +/- 6.0v, LM25" 15.5v, SQML 21.15)
    http://www.deepsky-drawings.com/ngc-0210/dsdlang/fr

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    Hi,
    Here's my observation from 9/2/2013: ngc 210 galaxy in Cetus; magnitude: 10.8 ; fairly bright and elongated with a bright elongated central nucleus. I used a 6mm Ethos at 264x with my 14.5 Starstructure Dob f/4.3ngc 210.jpg
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    In my efforts to become a better observer, I try to look at the OOTW without looking at any of the posted observations or sketches beforehand. Last night, while observing NGC 210 under clear skies with very good seeing I became quite discouraged that I wasn't seeing all kinds of detail in this object. I'm glad to come back here today to post my observation and see that what I was seeing wasn't too out of line with the observations posted here. Perhaps I'm getting better at this observing thing....

    20" f/3 and 6mm Ethos - 295x - southwestern Arizona - Seeing 4/5 - Transparency 3/5
    3x2' galaxy elongated NNW to SSE. A 14th magnitude star touching the SW side. Quickly brighter toward the middle. Averted vision shows that it's brighter at the long ends, darker along each side of the long axis.
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    Great target for the 82-inch Paul. I couldn't identify any galaxies in the neighborhood but the spiral arms were visible in the 27-inch.

    I wrote: bright 2:3 elongated bar with even brighter nucleus; outer regions with very faint surface brightness; thin arms no completely visible and only verifying at its brightest parts, completely detached from the central part

    sketch: 27", 293x, NELM 7m0+, Seeing II
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